Fabrik gives you the power to create forms and tables that run inside Joomla without requiring knowledge of mySQL and PHP. Then feed your data into Google Maps, Charts or an AJAX based calendar
With Fabrik you can create applications that range in complexity from simple contact forms to complex applications such as a job application site or bug tracking systems.
It also has a lot of annoyances. It's CSS includes a plethora of !important declarations, making it extremely hard to override their CSS with your own (that's bad practice for something providing functionality, not design). It conflicts with numerous other plugins out there, including SeBlod and even Mootools updater. It adds style declarations in the body, making your code invalid. It only works with some WYSIWYG editors. It is just riddled with problems.
My advice would be to avoid this extension whenever possible, although it admittedly has some features no other extensions have. If you do use it, good luck sorting out the bugs!
Hi, I can see your point with some of the css !import declarations, but beyond that I would have to disagree.
We make full use of Joomla's MVC, so I disagree with your statement we use 'poor coding principles'. If you'd like to suggest improvements in our code, feel free to contact us with any patches or suggestions.
I don't think throwing out all of the code and restarting would make for a bug free solution. The updates we make are for specific bugs, rarely but sometimes that produces other issues but for each release we do the potential bugs are dramatically reduced.
If you posted on the forum we would be happy to help you with any conflict you have with another program. Most of the time that is due to those plugins making improper use of JQuery or outputting comments inside our Ajax calls. I'm struggling to think of a time when we have been at fault with the way we are implementing things.
I've never heard of a report of an issue with Seblod (a quick google didn't find anything either)
Also it's incorrect that Fabrik doesn't work with Joomla's mootools system upgrade
Fabrik is NOT a forms component. Its an incredibly powerful and highly customizable database design system. yes, you can create tables. Yes, you can design forms, but the power comes through the ability to link tables, filter them, link them to google maps, charts and other visualisations. For those who want their site to collate a range of data in forms/subforms and to relate the data to other tables, Fabrik is really the only extension I've come across that comes close. At its basic level, its a form creator, but at its most powerful level, it gives access to clever and powerful manipulation and presentation of data. Its so great that the extension is free, I have no idea why Rob and his team do this. Have a play at the demo, read some of the documentation and give it a whirl. Theres no other 'forms' extension that comes close. Thanks Rob. Outstanding!
Hi, can you report any bugs found in the forum please, we do fix things when reported and I'm not aware of anything seriously wrong at the moment!
I have been using Fabrik for a couple of years on a few sites, and I am willing to concede that it could do with a better forum/search system for help, but the guys who are developing the product are spending their time on fixing bugs/upgrading/helping users, not mending the search system.
It can be difficult to find the right thread to solve your particular problem agreed, but I have virtually never had to ask a question directly, and when I have, I have had an excellent response in a very good timeframe.
I have also never seen any rudeness on the part of the support crew, even when they are dealing with people who have wildly unrealistic expectations, and apparently more teeth than brain cells!
Like all really complex products which are highly customizable, the learning curve is steep, but the wiki and the video walkthoughs will show anyone with half a brain how to get started, and after that, it will take you as far as you want to go.
Any honest assessment of a random selection of support issues in the Fabrik forum will show that time and time again the developers and their loyal helpers are patient and generous in supporting 'freebie' clients.
The product does what it says on the tin, and the prices for premium support are negligible in comparison to commercial equivalents which offer far less capability.
And for those who are thinking I work for Fabrik or something, A) I don't, and B)Go look at the free support forums to see how much effort Rob 'n Hugh 'n crew put in and C)Read the rest of the review down below...
Have to say that searching at K2, Virtuemart or Sobi2 support forums is a piece of cake, compared to Fabrik support forum.
Support answers at Fabrik forum are confusing, chaotic. Developers are often rude to people that are only asking help with "free" part of extension.
It seems that they just write at forum to get more topics and posts. Quantity before quality.
When someone asks something they answer halfhearted and then they acuse topic starter that he/she wasn´t clear. And topic ends there, despite starter made himself clear after.
Whole feeling with Fabrik support team is that they complicate and confuse things maximally to earn money if someone needs help with extension.
That BTW is not wrong, but YOU HAVE TO give easy and free explanation to that you give for free. For paid parts od extension you can charge extra for support.
As i said, deliberately complicating things at support level (and whole philosophy behind extension) to get more money.
Sorry guys, i use to give excellent reviews.
Thumbs down this time.
I am sorry to hear that was the experience you had on the community forum.
Its not our intention to force people to upgrade to a better support level (although as you would expect we give preference to paying customers in both depth and speed of responses)
We most certainly do not make the product complex to force people to upgrade either. Fabrik IS and in depth complex and subtle component. It takes time and patience to get the most out of it.
I really don't think we are rude on the forums either.
Thumbs down to the idea we do all this for the money!
It is not one that you can pick up and utilise in hours or days, in my view it needs a long learning curve, but it is definitely worth it at the end. Support is great too and the developers are very helpful and go out of their way to solve any issues
Thanks to do this extension. Is incredible that is not Commercial (Thanks for that too! ;-) )
Check out www.spreadinternational.org. The client wanted the front page...and an admin area (not the Joomla Admin) but a complete different admin area between the front page and Joomla admin. Not a menu given with a special ACL status for articles but a complete menu system that works that needs to manage the database directly. With Joomla and Fabrik we were able to achieve this.
15000 records in an existing database needs to get ported....with a complicated DB architecture. The system was in MS Access and .Net. We were able to bring in data to a great extent using SQL Yog and part of it manually.
The team here is very very active....
The team here is very very responsive...
They have done a wonderful job with this component.
Cheers for their work.
I use it for everything, for mysql data connections, for googlemapping, for small applications inside joomla.
Developpers Rob and Hugh are very nice people and very competent.
it is a free component but not so easy to manage so "Bronze support" is necessary to use it correctly and to be able to download some wonderful extras...and to encourage them to go farther.
The tutorials make it easy to start so setting up a form and displaying the data is simple. Customising the look and feel is also possible and not really difficult as there's always help at hand.
This is not a component to grab and quickly make a form there are easier component available for that sort of task, If you want to build an application, save and retrieve data and display your data without compromising then this is the one.
There is a wiki,forum and tutorials but unfortunately finding answers in the forum is just tedious, the wiki is very interesting but if you need to find an answer to a specific question then you'll probably have to repeat the question in the forum. The support is great and they work hard but it would probably be a lot better if answers could be found.
It's definately recommendable to get the Bronze Support which is money well spent and not at all expensive, not sure how good the free support is as after installing and going through the first tutorial I knew it was worth paying for.
Thanks for a great component
Hi Sorry you had trouble installing the plugins, but Fabrik uses its own plug-in installation page, so installing via Joomla's installer page won't work, perhaps this is the issue you had? If you find an error please report it in the forum so we can fix it - but I've not heard of anyone else reporting issues with the module installation.
Support is very, very slow, and even then, not detailed or very helpful.
There are updated daily.. so a constant task to keep files updated. ** Warning** Do *NOT* get involved with this component if you are expecting a few quick mouse clicks.. There is a lot of work as well as a lot of frustration.
Yes, it could be a great product, however, the 'pay now and see how you go' attitude should be a warning that this component still has a long way to go before its a 'no-so-bad' product.
Find something else.. I am.
I don't mind most of your review, but I do take issue with you claiming we "just cannot (will not?) accept criticism". We listen intently to our users to try to provide the service and solutions they are after. It would have been better for other people reading your review and ourselves if you could have provided an example where we weren't accepting criticism. Perhaps you are confusing your own frustration with not being able to resolve your specific issues with an impression of how we behave in general?
Also I'm surprised you say our support is slow, we really do tend to reply to 90% of subscribers within 24 hours.
I also take offence at the "pay now and see how you go" snipe - that certainly isn't our ethos. The component is free, there are free tutorials, there's a free wiki. There are the resources available to get started. If you then need extra features and support then isn't it fair for us to ask for some kind of payment?