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* generate SEF URLs
* advanced SEF URL management
* generate and manage metadata (component - based)
* can override default metadada generated by component or Joomla (title, meta tags)
* keywords management
* duplicates management
* 3rd level domain support
* support for other components through extension modules; each component extenstion has own configurable parameters
* multilinguality support (JoomFish) and URL localization
* UTF-8 URLs support
* URL caching
* URL source tracing to help allocate problematic code
* 301 Redirections management
* 404 Page Not Found customization
* online upgrades and extension installations
Support for many Joomla components: AdsManager, AlphaContent, Contacts XTD, Community Builder, Datso Gallery, DocMan, EZ Realty, Fireboard forum, Glossary, iJoomla Components, JE Comparison Charts, JEvents, Jomres, Joomlaboard, JoomFish, Joomla Tags, Jomres (Joomla Residents), Portfol, Seyret Video Component, SMF Bridge, SOBI2, Marketplace, Mosets Hot Property, Mosets Tree, ReMOSitory, RSGallery2, VirtueMart, Zoom Media Gallery. ...
at the moment, there is more than 100 extensions available directly from ARTIO - see http://www.artio.net/en/joomsef/artio-joomsef-extensions for complete list, plus many more from 3rd party developers.
However, this one is not a buggy one like the others. I have tried SEF404 and AceSef and both of those are either way too complicated to manage, or do not adhere to rules properly. Yet here with this one by Artio, things are working properly and there is no more confusion about what is going on. Locked urls stay locked unlike others that do not. Also we use JotCache and it works in sync. I am using a free version which is not great because they have to put their links all over the place, they should give us a choice about where these are going to be put. I see that others rate it low, but believe me, they will also rate the others low because of the learning curve. This one looks a lot like a knockoff that came lately, but it manages links much more smoothly and consistently.
it's the "angry point" of your configuration.
it seems that there is NO way to configure the SEF system without unexpected behaviour happening all over your site.
I bet the problem also rely on the complexity of joomla itself ( plugins order, caching system, wathever ) , and on the fact that there are no comparison product really available against JoomSef itself...
The low score, to me, depends on this fact: you cannot even hope to find a suitable configuration without testing every possible option, and after you've end with it, it still won't work the way the documentation explain it to you.
That's enough to make me desire to get rid of this product as soon as possible.
Hello, thanks for your feedback.
Well, you are right that this SEF URLs related stuff in Joomla is not easy. But it is not primarily JoomSEF fault. Most of the problems come from the add-on extensions, that are not written correcly according to Joomla API. Such components are kind of unpredictable and problems with them need to be solved case by case.
As regards settings, you are right there is many configuration options in JoomSEF. Maybe far too many and we plan to reduce the ammount. Still, we set them so, that with standard Joomla installation, you should have no need to adjust them, except to a minor tune-ups such as if you want the URLs to have .html suffix or not.
Of course it is GPL and you can remove it.
I would like to try the paid version, if it was GPL and I can use it on several projects, but that's not the fact.
I don't mind paying for the sub-plugins, but it is very unclear whether these work with the free version or not.
If you are unexperienced user, you better play with it first, before installing on a live site.
I would give 5 stars, if the extension was coming without the link at the bottom.
Thank you for your review. Let me respond briefly:
- I do not see a single reason, why the signature link should hurt your SEO in any way; most of the websites do have a signature of some kind
- as regards the licensing, it is up to you if you decide for the free version or upgrade to paid; as regards the paid version, I think the conditions are fair enough, but thank you for opinion
- sorry if the situation around plugins is not clear, so let me explain: you can use all of the plugins in the same way both for free and paid version
Which is quite a shame because it looks like it's doing what I need.
I say looks like because :
-melting free version with commercial version in the JED & in the website does not allow us to see clearly what is provided or not, therefor you have to install the component to see what is provided or not.
This is something the JED should also work on, as it's not the first time it happens and it already misinformed me very badly.
-as there is not documentation available so far, you have to install it, whatever it takes for your website.
And this is why I uninstalled it : it just decided, that by installing it it had to rewrite all my urls, even though I did not click on anything.
Usually when you a install a component you then need to activate it. Joomsef is activated by default and rewrites all your urls the way it decided to.
And even after being deactivated, my urls were still changed ! I had to remove it completely.
For people not having any SEF already activated or with a bad ranking, this is great. Just install it, it does the rest.
For people with already a good ranking who just wish to change some parameters, wait until there is some documentation.
Otherwise you'll find yourself with a lot of 404 ; and as this component offers a lot of parameters, unless your already familiar with it, there is probably no chance for you to fix them. Bye Bye good ranking.
I got lucky, because first thing I do when installing something is check my website and look for changes.
you say there is no documentation? Did you visit our site at all?
Btw. there is link from the component homepage as well as here from JED.
Also it might be good idea to check http://www.artio.net/faqs/artio-joomsef
As regards immediate activation after install, that is right. This is to make the setup as easy as possible for inexperienced users. The other can switch it off after install, update configuration and then activate again.
Finally, there is no way how the URLs would remain when deactivated. (if you used the SEO options in Joomla Global configuration)
Sorry to say that, but it seems to me, you took more effort to write this review than to really try to learn more about component and read the documentation.
it was confirmed - in collaboration with the user - that this problem was not caused by JoomSEF, neither by original VM extension, but due to a usage of 3rd party (unrecommended) VM extension for JoomSEF, not working properly. So it has in fact nothing to do with JoomSEF.
(ad support and response time - it was about 48hrs - during the weekend!)
IMO the area of SEF is one of as yet defined benefit, the selling point of having human readable URL’s is of debatable value. SEF is certainly no all curing elixir, there is much you can do to improve your rankings before turning to SEF alone.
As you’d expect from the opening paragraph I’ve found no discernable traffic increase from using Artio’s Joomsef for a period of approximately 8 months unless you count my 404 traffic which has literally gone through the roof!
Anyway the Good points on this product;
• Easy to install
• Easy to update (one click from the control panel for core product as well as any add-ons a particularly appreciated feature)
• Good Documentation (though describes only the function rather than how it works or the impact of using features)
• Regular updates
Bad points (the bit you’ve been waiting for)
• Doesn’t play nice with many components even when you purchase the plugin for that component
• Clunky navigation when trying to identify rogue URL’s
• 404’s increase exponentially (from only a handful pre-install to over 50,000 in 8 months)
• Poor Support (takes a long time to get a reply and then only with a holding type response, not good)
• Creates huge numbers of duplicates which wreaked havoc on my sited
• Doesn’t handle RSS feeds well
• Requires extensive maintenance (correcting URL’s, getting rid of duplicates etc.) and since I run a news site with material changing everyday this creates far too much overhead.
In a nutshell I’ve bitten a very large bullet and uninstalled Artio Joomsef, there were for me, far more downsides than upsides, particularly once you consider that many components now are adding their own SEF functionality, it’s difficult to see a bright future for components like this.
thanks for your extensive feedback. However, let me debate with you a bit.
JoomSEF is JUST a tool, not a magic wand.
Tool that will assist you with improving your site SEO. It will help you identify weakness of the site, components and structure design.
But it cannot solve all the problems by itself! You (or the component author) or the programmer who implemented your Joomla site needs to check for the reasons and remove them. JoomSEF will just point towards such problems.
If the site works fine with no duplicates, also the URLs and overal SEO ranking will be fine.But if there exists duplicate in the original non-SEO URL, there will be also duplicate in SEO URL. This also relates to the maintenance; if the site is well developed, no maintenance is needed.
I do not see relation between 404s and JoomSEF. If a URL does not exist, then it simply does not exist and generates 404 error. JoomSEF does not play any role in that.
Similar issue is with RSS.
If this spam was gone I would rate this extension as EXCELLENT. The Artio devs are good chaps - I don't know why they do this.
JoomSEF was easy to use, it works, its NON DESTRUCTIVE and well, well worth the $ for the paid version!!
I'm once again happy with URL redirects...like I jokingly said on twitter the other day, I am having a Joomla-plugin crush with this app...its really changed the way I do business with SEOing my websites with URL redirects...I haven't had one other extension mess it up, and I have LOTS OF WEBSITES with LOTS OF EXTENSIONS and NOT ONE messes up JoomSEF. Other SEF apps cannot say that...(not calling out names, lol).
Too many downsides which outweighed the benefits (what little I actually saw).
In all honesty, it does little more than Joomla's standard sef.
I finally acquiesced and decided to risk the $45US since I needed the Virtue extension as well. I'm sure glad I did because this is one of the most complete, professional, well though out Joomla extensions that I've ever used. The administrative tools are well thought out and actually useful for determining how a given URL is being formed. There are configuration parameters for tweaking URL generation just about any way you want it. It even did a reasonable job for components that aren't supported by dedicated extensions.
Two thumbs up and well worth the price. Nice job guys.
I have been using version 3.6.5 before upgrading and i still had the ability to change my .htaccess and sitemap via backend but now it says that I have to get the paid version to use these feature.
Give us a little heads up before making such drastic changes. Your site doesn't even mention this... in the news section nor the changelog.
I will be downgrading for now...
The free and additional plug-ins also worked perfectly, particularly for SOBi2.
A must have extension.
I am sorry to hear that our support was not able to help you. However, maybe it was just a communication problem, as it is quite difficult to understand even your post here. Anyway I am sure, that if you can describe the problem in sufficient level of detail, we will be able to fix the problems you have.
Before you get too frustrated with 404 errors, visit the documentation on their website. Copy and paste their entire .htaccess example file into your own and place it in your root directory (tweak it if you need to) and your 404 errors may go away. Now our visitors (real or bot) can crawl the website and see more realistic URLs in their browsers.